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		<title>Comment on Design Fiction: A Short Essay on Design, Science, Fact and Fiction by Design Fictions and Discipline</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2009/03/17/design-fiction-a-short-essay-on-design-science-fact-and-fiction/#comment-8149</link>
		<dc:creator>Design Fictions and Discipline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blockquotes from Design Fiction: A Short Essay on Design, Science, Fact and Fiction: Design Fiction is making things that tell stories. It’s like science-fiction in that the stories [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Manifesto for Networked Objects — Cohabiting with Pigeons, Arphids and Aibos in the Internet of Things by BA/T5, Marketing through Blogjects? &#124; Toothless Tiger</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2006/02/26/a-manifesto-for-networked-objects/#comment-7406</link>
		<dc:creator>BA/T5, Marketing through Blogjects? &#124; Toothless Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a version of Julian Bleeckers Blogject, an object that blogs. In this case, the Terminal 5 could blog about various statistics on the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things by Kenn McDonald</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/04/11/new-aesthetic-ooo-future-of-things/#comment-7381</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenn McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A random thought.
  
A guy runs down a path and a robot cart follows along after him, keeping pace and matching his every twist and turn.  The future is here.  But something nags me. I want the runner to stop to see what will happen.  I can just image 10 years from now thousands of people in airports constantly being bumped from behind by their iSuitcases because the damn things follow too close and can&#039;t break and stop as quickly as a person can.  On the dirt path the mad in running down?  Forget about it.  The man could come to a stop in a few steps.  The cart would skid right over him.  It is pretty nifty though.

Another thought.
 
Is lonelygirl15 an part of the new aesthetic?  A fictional person living online. Lonelygirl15 was always intended to be outed I think.  It was created to be entertainment. It was inevitable that people would catch on.  But what about those people out there who are living secret lives on Facebook?  It&#039;s a little more difficult that it used to be to set up alternate identities on the internet but not impossible.  Imagine a false identity spread across the internet.  Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all of them linked and sharing information on an imaginary persona. Are police posing as 13 year old girls trolling the internet for pedophiles part of the new aesthetic? 

 I&#039;ve been reading about the new aesthetic for a little while now and I&#039;m still trying to get what it is.  Show me a picture of a building with a digital looking brick pattern and I get that.  The visual stuff is easier. The technical, the digital moving into out physical world.  That&#039;s part of it.  But what about when we move into the digital world?

I suspect part of the problem I&#039;m having understanding the new aesthetic is that the level of dialog right now is taking place in very rarified atmosphere.  It&#039;s the Bruce Sterlings who are spilling their brains onto the internet and most of us top out at see Spot run.

It is on the internet though, which, if I get this at all, makes the discuss about the new aesthetic a very new aesthetic kind of thing.  In the past this kind of discussion would have taken place at elite symposiums.  Papers would have been published in fancy scientific journals with limited distribution.  Letters would have flown across the country, indeed, around the world in a heated debate that would have lasted for years before the New Aesthetic was nailed down.  Eventually it would work it&#039;s way down to the see Spot run level of discourse and the rest of us would read about it in Time Magazine, nicely pre-digetsted for our tender sensibilities.  Now it&#039;s happening on the internet in damn near realtime.  We are seeing it in it&#039;s rough, embryonic, highfaluting phase and we are befuddled, but fascinated.  The process also seems to be incredibly accelerated as the discourse spreads far and wide at a digital pace.   How very New Aesthetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A random thought.</p>
<p>A guy runs down a path and a robot cart follows along after him, keeping pace and matching his every twist and turn.  The future is here.  But something nags me. I want the runner to stop to see what will happen.  I can just image 10 years from now thousands of people in airports constantly being bumped from behind by their iSuitcases because the damn things follow too close and can&#8217;t break and stop as quickly as a person can.  On the dirt path the mad in running down?  Forget about it.  The man could come to a stop in a few steps.  The cart would skid right over him.  It is pretty nifty though.</p>
<p>Another thought.</p>
<p>Is lonelygirl15 an part of the new aesthetic?  A fictional person living online. Lonelygirl15 was always intended to be outed I think.  It was created to be entertainment. It was inevitable that people would catch on.  But what about those people out there who are living secret lives on Facebook?  It&#8217;s a little more difficult that it used to be to set up alternate identities on the internet but not impossible.  Imagine a false identity spread across the internet.  Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all of them linked and sharing information on an imaginary persona. Are police posing as 13 year old girls trolling the internet for pedophiles part of the new aesthetic? </p>
<p> I&#8217;ve been reading about the new aesthetic for a little while now and I&#8217;m still trying to get what it is.  Show me a picture of a building with a digital looking brick pattern and I get that.  The visual stuff is easier. The technical, the digital moving into out physical world.  That&#8217;s part of it.  But what about when we move into the digital world?</p>
<p>I suspect part of the problem I&#8217;m having understanding the new aesthetic is that the level of dialog right now is taking place in very rarified atmosphere.  It&#8217;s the Bruce Sterlings who are spilling their brains onto the internet and most of us top out at see Spot run.</p>
<p>It is on the internet though, which, if I get this at all, makes the discuss about the new aesthetic a very new aesthetic kind of thing.  In the past this kind of discussion would have taken place at elite symposiums.  Papers would have been published in fancy scientific journals with limited distribution.  Letters would have flown across the country, indeed, around the world in a heated debate that would have lasted for years before the New Aesthetic was nailed down.  Eventually it would work it&#8217;s way down to the see Spot run level of discourse and the rest of us would read about it in Time Magazine, nicely pre-digetsted for our tender sensibilities.  Now it&#8217;s happening on the internet in damn near realtime.  We are seeing it in it&#8217;s rough, embryonic, highfaluting phase and we are befuddled, but fascinated.  The process also seems to be incredibly accelerated as the discourse spreads far and wide at a digital pace.   How very New Aesthetic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things by Warren Ellis &#187; Bookmarks for 2012-04-14</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/04/11/new-aesthetic-ooo-future-of-things/#comment-7377</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren Ellis &#187; Bookmarks for 2012-04-14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things &#124; Near Future LaboratoryPerfect New Aesthetic summation: &quot;It&#8217;s the nostril that must be picked.&quot;(tags:newaesthetic ) [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things by Pasta&#38;Vinegar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is the New Aesthetic only about visual stuff?</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/04/11/new-aesthetic-ooo-future-of-things/#comment-7344</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasta&#38;Vinegar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is the New Aesthetic only about visual stuff?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of cultural elements. More to follow later on. And of course, this seems to be related to the object-oriented ontology that Julian blogged about the other day. Let&#8217;s read more about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of cultural elements. More to follow later on. And of course, this seems to be related to the object-oriented ontology that Julian blogged about the other day. Let&#8217;s read more about [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Manifesto for Networked Objects — Cohabiting with Pigeons, Arphids and Aibos in the Internet of Things by New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things &#124; Near Future Laboratory</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2006/02/26/a-manifesto-for-networked-objects/#comment-7288</link>
		<dc:creator>New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things &#124; Near Future Laboratory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fistful of years ago when I wrote a short essay called Why Things Matter (The blog post was called A Manifesto for Networked Objects.) I&#8217;m not much further along in understanding why, but I think Alien Phenomenology is [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things by Greg Borenstein</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/04/11/new-aesthetic-ooo-future-of-things/#comment-7286</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Borenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great video. And nice to see someone picking up on the OOO thread (though your link to my post on Creators Project is broken at the minute). For me I think one of the key ways to proceed is close readings: attention to how these New Aesthetic objects actually work has to be the first step towards speculatively imagining them. I&#039;m starting to try to do that here: http://makematics.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great video. And nice to see someone picking up on the OOO thread (though your link to my post on Creators Project is broken at the minute). For me I think one of the key ways to proceed is close readings: attention to how these New Aesthetic objects actually work has to be the first step towards speculatively imagining them. I&#8217;m starting to try to do that here: <a href="http://makematics.com" rel="nofollow">http://makematics.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things by Infovore &#187; Links for April 11th through April 12th</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/04/11/new-aesthetic-ooo-future-of-things/#comment-7278</link>
		<dc:creator>Infovore &#187; Links for April 11th through April 12th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things &#124; Near Future Laboratory &quot;It&#8217;s the symptom of the algorithm. It&#8217;s what comes out of the digital-political-economy of cultures that live by networks and the machinary (soft/hard/hashtag-y) that underpin it all. All this #newaesthtic #ooo #futureofproduction stuff is the excess. The unexpected, unplanned for result. It&#8217;s the things that happen without one self-consciously *going after* #newaesthetic / object-oriented ontological / future of network connected things sensibilities.&quot; A calm, rational, open-ended commentary from Julian. I liked this point. (tags: newaesthetic ooo julianbleecker nearfuturelaboratory serendipity ) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New Aesthetic // OOO // Future of Things | Near Future Laboratory &quot;It&rsquo;s the symptom of the algorithm. It&rsquo;s what comes out of the digital-political-economy of cultures that live by networks and the machinary (soft/hard/hashtag-y) that underpin it all. All this #newaesthtic #ooo #futureofproduction stuff is the excess. The unexpected, unplanned for result. It&rsquo;s the things that happen without one self-consciously *going after* #newaesthetic / object-oriented ontological / future of network connected things sensibilities.&quot; A calm, rational, open-ended commentary from Julian. I liked this point. (tags: newaesthetic ooo julianbleecker nearfuturelaboratory serendipity ) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Corner Convenience // The Near Future // Design Fiction by Pasta&#38;Vinegar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vending machines and their cultural implications</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/03/04/corner-convenience-near-future-design-fiction/#comment-6757</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasta&#38;Vinegar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vending machines and their cultural implications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cultural indicator that it&#8217;s always refreshening to observe. It says something about convenience and what is &#8220;acceptable&#8221; to be served by a [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on 3Difficult by Tom</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/2012/03/27/3difficult/#comment-6457</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think cheap 3d printing is a classic disruptive innovation.  Sure, the output is crummy, for all the reasons you list.  But it doesn&#039;t have to impress people trained in ID - it just has to be better than nothing, because that&#039;s the initial target market.

And as the technology tries to move up-market, they&#039;re creating new distribution channels that will solve these problems as they arise.  You mention CE certification - this could be solved in a number of ways that don&#039;t require everyone to have ID training.  Perhaps kickstarter or shapeways could have some trained people on staff to shepherd designs through the process.  Perhaps there could be a generic approval for certain building blocks.  Who knows?  But if they can capture a lot of non-creators, then they&#039;ll have funds and motivation to solve the up-market problems.

I&#039;m not arguing with your main point, that ID expertise and practices are still very valuable for what they&#039;re currently being used for today.  It&#039;s just that there&#039;s a whole new segment with much lower expectations that&#039;s poised to eat away the market from the bottom.  Saying that the output isn&#039;t high enough quality is true for current mass-marketed products, but that isn&#039;t the competition for these cheap low-end technologies right now, the competition is nothing.  If they can win against nothing, then they&#039;ll reach the desired quality eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think cheap 3d printing is a classic disruptive innovation.  Sure, the output is crummy, for all the reasons you list.  But it doesn&#8217;t have to impress people trained in ID &#8211; it just has to be better than nothing, because that&#8217;s the initial target market.</p>
<p>And as the technology tries to move up-market, they&#8217;re creating new distribution channels that will solve these problems as they arise.  You mention CE certification &#8211; this could be solved in a number of ways that don&#8217;t require everyone to have ID training.  Perhaps kickstarter or shapeways could have some trained people on staff to shepherd designs through the process.  Perhaps there could be a generic approval for certain building blocks.  Who knows?  But if they can capture a lot of non-creators, then they&#8217;ll have funds and motivation to solve the up-market problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not arguing with your main point, that ID expertise and practices are still very valuable for what they&#8217;re currently being used for today.  It&#8217;s just that there&#8217;s a whole new segment with much lower expectations that&#8217;s poised to eat away the market from the bottom.  Saying that the output isn&#8217;t high enough quality is true for current mass-marketed products, but that isn&#8217;t the competition for these cheap low-end technologies right now, the competition is nothing.  If they can win against nothing, then they&#8217;ll reach the desired quality eventually.</p>
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