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	<title>Comments on: About Don Norman&#8217;s take on &#8220;design research&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Différence entre bon et mauvais design !&#160;&#124;&#160;NoDesign</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/pasta-and-vinegar/2009/12/08/about-don-normans-take-design-research/#comment-3805</link>
		<dc:creator>Différence entre bon et mauvais design !&#160;&#124;&#160;NoDesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guru de l&#8217;&#160;&#187;usability&#160;&#187; Don Norman semble également réfléchir à une évolution de sa pensée lors d’un atricle récent ou il disait que les designers n’avaient jamais produit d’invention [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Guru de l&#8217;&nbsp;&raquo;usability&nbsp;&raquo; Don Norman semble également réfléchir à une évolution de sa pensée lors d’un atricle récent ou il disait que les designers n’avaient jamais produit d’invention [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genealogy: Collecting dead relatives and sometimes a live cousin!</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Shot&#8221; Heard &#8216;Round the (Design) World &#124; The Human Factor Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Shot&#8221; Heard &#8216;Round the (Design) World &#124; The Human Factor Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] About Don Norman&#8217;s take &#8220;design research&#8221; [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Pasta&#38;Vinegar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Petroski's "The Evolution of Useful Things"</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/pasta-and-vinegar/2009/12/08/about-don-normans-take-design-research/#comment-3802</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasta&#38;Vinegar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Petroski's "The Evolution of Useful Things"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of theory, ingenuity and fancy&#8220;. This is a favorite topic of mine, that I already addressed here. Petroski illustrates it with the example of the paper clip: &#8220;the invention of a new paper [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of theory, ingenuity and fancy&#8220;. This is a favorite topic of mine, that I already addressed here. Petroski illustrates it with the example of the paper clip: &#8220;the invention of a new paper [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Three zones : Dream here</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/pasta-and-vinegar/2009/12/08/about-don-normans-take-design-research/#comment-3801</link>
		<dc:creator>Three zones : Dream here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] design research can truly create new things (recently discussed by many based on a D. Norman posting). The way I currently relate this discussion to my research is, again, [...] </description>
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		<title>By: nodesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>nodesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Remy.
I just say Nokia is going to death, don&#039;t talk about the UCD approach. Nokia is like Phillips. Lot of brillant concept, but there is nothing of this vision in the market.
I agree with you, UCD people fail to talk about emotion, good design, history, desire. In this approach, the design&#039;s answer could be like pills, prothesis or the same as going to a &quot;psychoanalist&quot; ;=)).

As a matter of fact, the UCD gurus are journalists, consultants, or something in &quot;-ogue&quot; (french) or &quot;-ist&quot;(UK) but their are often not designers.
People are Human before being &quot;customers&quot; or &quot;users&quot;. Design in Europe has an humanist approach.

We could observe that design&#039;s people are more talking about HCD now. (pleonasm ?) I know there is in Europe, new people from design, new user research, technology they are working to invent a new way to design good products and services and conversation with people. 

If this what you are talking about, Remy then I agree with you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Remy.<br />
I just say Nokia is going to death, don&#8217;t talk about the UCD approach. Nokia is like Phillips. Lot of brillant concept, but there is nothing of this vision in the market.<br />
I agree with you, UCD people fail to talk about emotion, good design, history, desire. In this approach, the design&#8217;s answer could be like pills, prothesis or the same as going to a &#8220;psychoanalist&#8221; ;=)).</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, the UCD gurus are journalists, consultants, or something in &#8220;-ogue&#8221; (french) or &#8220;-ist&#8221;(UK) but their are often not designers.<br />
People are Human before being &#8220;customers&#8221; or &#8220;users&#8221;. Design in Europe has an humanist approach.</p>
<p>We could observe that design&#8217;s people are more talking about HCD now. (pleonasm ?) I know there is in Europe, new people from design, new user research, technology they are working to invent a new way to design good products and services and conversation with people. </p>
<p>If this what you are talking about, Remy then I agree with you</p>
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		<title>By: Remy Bourganel</title>
		<link>http://nearfuturelaboratory.com/pasta-and-vinegar/2009/12/08/about-don-normans-take-design-research/#comment-3799</link>
		<dc:creator>Remy Bourganel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jean Louis Frechin/No Design:
Nokia is not dying of it&#039;s UCD approach but of a large set of other reasons. Such an appoach has been an opportunity for my team at the time to define the first widget based homescreen in 2005, as well as a set of radical interfaces built around &#039;people&#039;, emotionally engaging experiences. What Nokia fails to address through it&#039;s UCD approach is that people are emotional before to be rational, designing tools rather than companions some other company ask to say hello to. Many UCD practices I observed, including and especially in Nokia, fall in this trap of over-rationalizing people, by calling them users to start with probably.
Finally, visiting the prestigious museum of cinema in Paris, it was a fantastic opportunity to reflect on recent conversations in conference with Nicolas about the incremental and genealogical process of innovation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jean Louis Frechin/No Design:<br />
Nokia is not dying of it&#8217;s UCD approach but of a large set of other reasons. Such an appoach has been an opportunity for my team at the time to define the first widget based homescreen in 2005, as well as a set of radical interfaces built around &#8216;people&#8217;, emotionally engaging experiences. What Nokia fails to address through it&#8217;s UCD approach is that people are emotional before to be rational, designing tools rather than companions some other company ask to say hello to. Many UCD practices I observed, including and especially in Nokia, fall in this trap of over-rationalizing people, by calling them users to start with probably.<br />
Finally, visiting the prestigious museum of cinema in Paris, it was a fantastic opportunity to reflect on recent conversations in conference with Nicolas about the incremental and genealogical process of innovation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: An update on &#8220;Technology First;&#8221; new (free) book from Godin &#171; Design and Innovation Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>An update on &#8220;Technology First;&#8221; new (free) book from Godin &#171; Design and Innovation Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] black-and-white than he makes it out to be. If you found the original article interesting, then Nicolas Nova&#8217;s discussion as well as Todd Zaki Warfel&#8217;s rebuttal will give you something to think about (also read the [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] black-and-white than he makes it out to be. If you found the original article interesting, then Nicolas Nova&#8217;s discussion as well as Todd Zaki Warfel&#8217;s rebuttal will give you something to think about (also read the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: françois</title>
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		<dc:creator>françois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this interesting post!

The beautiful difference between invention and innovation... it reminds me of something!
Clearly human sciences and research cannot see what human beeing will be, specialy because we are working on the existing field. To my opinion and as said by Nodesign, technology sciences and human sciences are not working the same way and seems to be less operational. Nothing will rise directly from sociology, anthropology, ethnography other than a deep knowledge of the human world, which is the principle of all invention : the knowledge and the impregnation of the system.

And I entirely agree with Nodesign again about Lift, as shown in my blog and post about &quot;Les Entretiens&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this interesting post!</p>
<p>The beautiful difference between invention and innovation&#8230; it reminds me of something!<br />
Clearly human sciences and research cannot see what human beeing will be, specialy because we are working on the existing field. To my opinion and as said by Nodesign, technology sciences and human sciences are not working the same way and seems to be less operational. Nothing will rise directly from sociology, anthropology, ethnography other than a deep knowledge of the human world, which is the principle of all invention : the knowledge and the impregnation of the system.</p>
<p>And I entirely agree with Nodesign again about Lift, as shown in my blog and post about &#8220;Les Entretiens&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nodesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>nodesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peut être que tout est une question d&#039;équilibre. le vieux monde techno push est mort, ou il doit disparaitre mais le user centred design est t&#039;il une alternative plausible ? 
La plupart du temps, c&#039;est une question de temporalité. On compare des cycles de conception ou d&#039;exécution qui n&#039;ont rien à voir.
Norman peut pointer la nécessité de balancer la puissance du UCD qui n&#039;a a ce jour rien donner de vraiment convainquant: voir la mort lente de Nokia.
Par contre on comprends la nécessité de User research quand on regardes l&#039;ancienne division téléphonie d&#039;alcatel dect en 90. En un mot le design thinking doit réellement , il doit également . Lire les remarques d&#039;Alice Rawstorn , il y a quelques mois
http://www.nodesign.net/blog/index.php/post/2009/04/06/Réinventer-l-innovation

PAsser d&#039;un monde ou l&#039;utilisateur n&#039;existe pas à une buzz compagnie qui pretend le conaitre dans son intimité la plus profonde merite un forme de mesure.
Lift montre le chemin ? je crois....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peut être que tout est une question d&#8217;équilibre. le vieux monde techno push est mort, ou il doit disparaitre mais le user centred design est t&#8217;il une alternative plausible ?<br />
La plupart du temps, c&#8217;est une question de temporalité. On compare des cycles de conception ou d&#8217;exécution qui n&#8217;ont rien à voir.<br />
Norman peut pointer la nécessité de balancer la puissance du UCD qui n&#8217;a a ce jour rien donner de vraiment convainquant: voir la mort lente de Nokia.<br />
Par contre on comprends la nécessité de User research quand on regardes l&#8217;ancienne division téléphonie d&#8217;alcatel dect en 90. En un mot le design thinking doit réellement , il doit également . Lire les remarques d&#8217;Alice Rawstorn , il y a quelques mois<br />
<a href="http://www.nodesign.net/blog/index.php/post/2009/04/06/Réinventer-l-innovation" rel="nofollow">http://www.nodesign.net/blog/index.php/post/2009/04/06/Réinventer-l-innovation</a></p>
<p>PAsser d&#8217;un monde ou l&#8217;utilisateur n&#8217;existe pas à une buzz compagnie qui pretend le conaitre dans son intimité la plus profonde merite un forme de mesure.<br />
Lift montre le chemin ? je crois&#8230;.</p>
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